Talk:Occultism in Nazism

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Not a very informative article[edit]

This article is mainly about the historiography of Nazi occultism but doesn't actually discuss it. It hardly provides any actual details on things like Wewelsburg, the Anenherbe, the influence of folkisch mysticism on Nazi ideology, the Thule Society etc. Rather the article seems to be more interested in discrediting the idea that Hitler was a sorcerer with real magical powers or something, which is kind of silly given that its rather obvious that he didn't have magical powers. I mean, sure, Hitler didn't actually commune with the dark forces and the Nazi party wasn't secretly run by shadowy mystical cults but he and many other Nazis still believed in various occult ideas to varying degrees but this article doesn't mention any of that. 123.243.215.92 (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

There is also an article called Nazi Esotericism, perhaps a merge would help? 142.134.74.139 (talk) 15:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

A merge with Nazi Esotericism wouldn't be right, since that page is now Esoteric Nazism and focuses specifically on modern esotericist interpretations of Nazi ideology. This page does need some serious work - the focus is misdirected IMO and makes it really unclear whether we're talking about conspiracy theories alleging secret control of the Nazi party or about actual crossover between occultist belief systems and Nazism in Nazi Germany. I would argue that we should focus on the latter. I made some attempts at cleaning up the first section, but there's a lot more to be done, and the lead should be rewritten entirely. --AvrahamHerschel (talk) 19:43, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

SS insignia and Black_Sun_(occult_symbol)#Nazi_and_Neo-Nazi_significance[edit]

There are documented assertions to be made that the SS in particular contained direct references to outright occultism. As this talk page referenced, many of these sources are reliable enough to be in other articles. This one in particular directly references the occultist interests of Heinrich Himmler.

The allegation that occultism ran deep in National Socialism is not a conspiracy theory. Though it is unknown how deep it permeates, there are unquestionably occultist references and symbols. At face value, isn't the swastika a spiritual icon in India? It means "peace", but still.


--99.104.188.245 (talk) 03:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

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"Action against secret teachings and so-called secret sciences"[edit]

This aspect has hardly been taken into account so far. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_gegen_Geheimlehren_und_sogenannte_Geheimwissenschaften — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8109:B00:4776:CD10:AC6B:77B4:CD2B (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Before the NSDAP was a political party, it was an occult organization[edit]

I am shocked that there is NO mention in this article of the Thule Society, which mutated into the Nazi Party. The fact that this organization, along with Dietrich Eckhart (the man who mentored Hitler and gave him his education in politics, without which his rise to power would never have been possible) are never even mentioned greatly detracts from this article's credibility and usefulness. This is an embarrassing omission that should be corrected ASAP. Thanks! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:9C81:5D00:0:0:0:44FE (talkcontribs)

WP:RS ? - LuckyLouie (talk) 18:38, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
The article actually has two mentions of the Thule society and an external link, so I'm not sure what your complaint is about. - - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)